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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2012.04.07 03:46:00 -
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Eva Volkova wrote:When they introduced invention cpp said they wasnt happy how the lottery was handled.
why?
why no a new system?
why scared of change?
What is better with this sistem?
What advantages have this sistem instead of the one i have talked about?
EvA
Many moons ago when T2 Bpo was the only way of producing T2 items, cartels formed. They offer ridiculous amounts of isk to buy up all the BPO of the same item and controlled the prices. Peasants then had to pay 20 mil ISK for a cargo expander and 300 mil ISK for a HAC. Back then peasants whined for a good reason because cartels could control both volume and price
CCP wanted to keep T2 manufacturing distinct from T1, but didn't like to continue with the lottery because these cartels would just keep buying up the BPO and continue plundering the peasants. They wanted a system where anyone could participate and more importantly scalable as EVE population grew. Thus, Invention was born
The populace of New Eden rejoiced as Invention was introduced and quickly smashed the Cartel's grip on the T2 market. Now T2 items was in abundance and everyone could afford them. A noob no longer had to save for days just to buy a 20mil ISK for a cap recharger, mind you this was back in the days when LP stores didn't offer as much Faction mods
As you can see Invention is working as intended and it was not a typo error for invented BPC to carry -4 ME/-4 PE by default.
Fast forward several years later, EVE gets new players who joins and conveniently forgets that EVE is a game set in a persistent universe. Then more ignorant players much like yourself who can't figure out the difference between their butt hole and their mouths come out on the forums and start whining about how unfair things are while totally oblivious to how much harder the game was or how much improvements the game has seen.
So, please get off your privileged a$$ next time and read up on EVE's rich history before whining on the forums for unnecessary changes which would accomplish nothing except to satisfy your bitter jealousy. |
Stella SGP
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Posted - 2012.04.07 09:26:00 -
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Eva Volkova wrote:you reply to mi post but you dont answerd mi questions.
i just think invention should given better items than BPO T2 because its more time consuming. More time= better results.
So please troll all you whant but eve has changed it allways is changing and thats good.
Ravens where number one but missiles change and get a nerf.
Vagabons pilgrims a nanocanes where a must but a nerf came.
titans are seem very powerfull and they have receive nerf after nerf.
Whats so important of BPO T2 that cant be changed in any way.
Ok lets keep it as they are but buff invention. whats the problem you have buffing invention?
- they should be a diference between using a 0me /0pe BPO and a full researched one.
- why not have a chance of having better BPC T2?. Better than a BPO T2 full researched. Its only a BPC and will run out but will give you something new and will be fun (like getting an officer loot in pve).
Lets make industri a better place. Lets static and with more change.
EvA
Actually all your questions have been answered, bottomline, there is nothing wrong with T2 Bpos and invention works as it should. The only problem there is, is your perception of the Bpos and jealousy.
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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2012.04.09 20:26:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Kenshin Tzestu wrote:More like BPO owners can undercut people trying invention to the point that they exit the market. Statements like this really emphasize the lack of common sense in the "T2 BPO's are unfair" crowd. Seriously, If you stop for two seconds and actually think about it. If an owner of a T2 BPO wants to make money of it, what is their best option?
WOA! Slow down there buddy, you're asking for too much there! |
Stella SGP
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Posted - 2012.04.09 20:50:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:The owner of T2BPO can get over 100Billion isk in retail value alone and that is before even producing a single item. For sure some of the BPO's are not worth that but many are.
And owners of Officer-fitted Titans can get over 100Bil isk in retail value alone too and thats before using it to carebear anomalies and blapping people. So whats your point? Anything you can't afford should be removed? |
Stella SGP
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:51:00 -
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Cassi Watson wrote:If a T2 BPO's are a licence to print money. It cuts out a decent cost in the production of T2 goods and turns it into 100% pure profit. While a T2 BPO is technically open to the free market, no player can procure one threw means that currently exist in the game.
The Value of a T2 BPC is defined by the players ability's to produce them threw research, this value has real context since time and materials went to making them. A T2BPO piggybacks this value in a manner that no player can reproduce threw current game mechanics.
The only fair way to fix this situation is to give a value to the current T2BPO's and then add a means to procure a T2BPO at the same cost. This "Fix" would invalidate the invention system over time but it should be noted that the invention system still stands as a cheaper way to produce a T2 BPC, if the procurement of a T2 BPO was threw invention it would still keep the system valid.
Ultimately the biggest issue I feel most industrialists have with T2BPO's is the fact that we cant procure them threw the game and that they can have 0.1% waste while invention prints are limited to what ML's and PL's you modify them to have.
T2 BPO's are just another "ATM" CCP needs to fix in the game.
Only thing that needs fixing is the IQ level of some people, something CCP can't fix... |
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